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[captioning performed t national ctiinine, icisesnsleorts cacoenanacra. t ic.o] josh: this sunday on "close u ," donald trump is in ttuo for the first time to talabt the lastn e ceor ithoe. from the iran deal to the republican debatno o topi. a former secretary of state campaigning r otrm crarofta, dein ig. thank you for joining . we hea iti a te again, donald trump is goinad and drop out. here it is in november and that has not happened.
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polls. what are his ideas when ces to preinises goodo josh: hi, josh. mr. trump: what was it -- mr. trump: hi, josh. josh: what was it like for you? you filed officially for your candidacy in the new hampshire primary. where do tt anon stf in y he mp? mr. tr it was so important. bill was giving me the history. he was fantastic. we had a tremendous crowd of people, ici d t expect. we had hundreds of peopl waiting with signs, trump, tramp, tramp. they want -- trump, trump, trump . they want to sees not be ripped off anymore. whether it is through polling or friendshipi veev u
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from not so favorable to re p that peoe like . people understand views and they know what i want to do. papers. josh: your s ca w deraileda cme. you have said things vweas racist, disparaging to women, tweets that people thi a insensitivwh ico j bush, yet you remain unaffecd. why? mr. trump: people are tired of political correctness. they look at what s n with everything. that will not be good and then i go up five points. they are tiredf licay rrt and they want intelligence. they do not want to be rpe
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china, we are losing $400 billion a year. who would be so stupid to me deals keha they look at japan, carsanby the millions and they do not even take our od i have nothing against japan. i have a great relationship with the people of japan and i respect their leaders. we have a strong agreeme. if thearatck, h he tm. if we are attacked, they do not have tdo anything. that is the way weegte josh: how do you negotiate wi china? cards. josh: how? mr. trump: they have taken more jobs, ouba a manufacturing , we have rebuilt china. i was thinking the other day and it is true, the single grees theft in the history of the world habe wt in neo e s. ve taken our js,ur
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and we oh then $1.5 trillion. we oh then -- we owe them $1.5 trillion. same amount. carl doede. i know the smartest and the best negotiators. we he licahas in goatn r . we have diplomats that kw nothing about business or negotiation. you haveeoe n hre th a pnonabune peop. they are sick and ti watching -- not even in terms of countries. you okt rgntow bergdahl. we give a no good trader who would ha bn eced
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six people died looking r him. six people died. we get sergeant bowe bergdahl , they get five of the killers ey bn fo ne years. nine years to get these op. we get atra -- a traitor. they get five killers. look at e an deal, they have 24 day inspection periods, they have self inspe have prisoners, we ha fr prisons dnoev g there. thherine. weanouprons ba? they said the other day we will not give you for, we will give you three back. but we want 19 of the people in.
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and the people of new hampshire and the people of florida, where i and througthroth polls, the people of iowa, the people osoh carolina. you saw texas and ord all ofhetas. eyr what i say. i built a great company and that was importan much better than anyone er thought. i am a private company. when i did my filing, i pod myself it turned out my company is much bigger and better d stronger than anyone thought. it was the opposite of what people were thinking. i do not say tha braggadocio' s way. we cannot have deals like 've been minov t lt period of time, even before obama. obama has been a disaster. josh: let me ask yut sya.
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if youid the iran deal, russia is flying - mrtrp: i would renegotiate the iran deal strongly. do i wish it was not signed? absolutely. s worse when you have a horrible deal and you get out of it. i have fought manyad, them if they are bad and i make great deals. contract for little money a make a great contract, that is what i d professial -i g it i will make that a good dealor us but iwod veeeer ty d not made a deal. secretary kerry incompenan our presenisncpe look at the money they are getting. $150 billion. if they do not need nuclear weapon theyanhe mrtr do you tighten up the inspection mr. tr i have found over the years, the worst deal is that you think, therewa
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ha sentence of something you can hang your hat on. i will do numbers on them that you willotelvendll d bng dfentea i wish they did not sign it. the worst part is we will have given them by the time i got to office, we will have handed than a tremendo aunof. a tremendous amount of mey that will be a situation -- i will remedy all ofhaha is what i do. i make things good. jo: that is the situation i syria, o me in it is the biggest immigratn we' sn ncwod . mrtr they want to take 215,000 people from syria. we don' t evennohe fromyr. th cea is is, this could be a trojan obama wants 250,000 people coming into this country. you do not see that many women and chilen
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yoe of men. why aren' t theyigfo theicotr we are going to take 200 50,000? it is going ct ns doarov 1yes. know who they are, there is noen. it will not happen with me. i made the statement and i told you directly -- he in, i have a bigger heart than know. if you are willing to come here, you are going bai win. stng, he sp ilimgrion. we cannot take 250,000 people, that is like taking a big city. josh: what do we dou situation in sy mr. trump: in terms of the migration, we shld take a piece of land in sth plenty, we should do a safe zone and let some of the gulf states and germany and the other
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we should build a safe zone. better than bringing them here. some thing has to be done on a humanitarian bis tmsf russia and all the things happening overhe, my attitude is this -- we have been tied up in the middle east for many yrs, decades. we have squandered trillio of dollars. yet our roads are bad, our schools are bad and we are like a third world country in many cases. if russints to bomb isis , let them do it. i am tougher military than anybody. but then do it. russia destroyed, russia was the soviet union, they destroyed the soviet union by going into afghanistan. they got tied up in afghanta for so lg d eyou not win, it broke up the soviet union. if russia wants to go bomb isis, i am for it.
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anybody else wanto it is a great thing. we have to kp pr. we have to get rid of isis. when people are topping off heads and making thrwe have tgeriofsi russia wants to bomb them, why would we not lm that? josh: we will take a break. we will get donald trump's take on new hampshire' s place in the presidential seltice stay witus the son of a polish immigrant who grew up in a brooklyn tenement. he went to public schools, then college, where the work of his life began -- fighting injustice and inequality, speaking truth to power. he moved to vermont, won election and praise as one of america's best mayors. in congress, he stood up for working families and for principle, opposing the iraq war, supporting veterans. now he's taking on wall street and a corrupt political system funded by over a million
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contributions, tackling climate change fighting for living wages, and tuition-free public colleges. people are sick and tired of establishment politics, and they want real change! [ cheers and applause ] bernie sanders -- husband, father, grandfather, an honest leader to give us a future sanders: i'm bernie sanders,
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josh: welcome back t"csep ." we continue our conversio with dond um mrp:ha y. josh: let' about the new hampshire primary. fit t niostus you are a newcomer to the process, what do you make of it? do you think changee mr. trp:o. new hampshire is going to keep its place. it has had a great history. when i did the filing, i appreciated the hiev more if i win, new hampshire is not going anywhere. there is a big movement with a lot of different peoplehe they want to put new hampsre back in e pack, that would be a terrible thing.
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it would be bad for the we wl epewamhi w i have said a lot of things, including the situation with the debates. you negotiatedoude thheetrk at the same time, the media has been criticized, perhapsigly in a lot of ways. where is the media -- i will say national mia -- where is the media getting it wrong? mr. trump: the debates were pretty lousy. thqutis were different than the questions posed to the democrats. if you look aev stitananr. as far as i' m concerned, let' s have theebes i have done well in the debates. most of the poll s camenbeon i' ve never done it before and i and competing with politicians, all they do is tr vi. all talk, no action. they do not get anything done but they talk. i am having a cedef
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fudog e bas. i do not care that much,e t up ande debate. the knife in new hampshire is the importandete e poant time -- the knife in new hampshireth poant debate -- the ninth in new hampshire is the important debate. w mpirwi bprecd. josh: i' ve gotten to know you a little bit over the ew years. you lk tce y ven fe doing well in the polls for a long time. it seems to almost surprise you how quickly it hneho conste ihas been. have you been surprise mr. trump: ltlbi obviously i would not ha r if i do nothk i could win. i thought it might be me ke inching a at the end maybe inch over. we have been in this state and other states and virtually l statese veeeathe omheegni.
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yet the message is a hard messagto beat. people know what i am doing. they know i am a negotiating guy, i make a lot of money. i do not care about that anymore. my companyilbeun ki. this is so important in somebod said which is more important the compy? thmp is unimportant compared to savi c and mangheouryre again. all the energy i have d d all thtant he d for making things good, that would be put into makihed steseay ea i actually think we havtoo it fast, our country can b greater, better than ever before. josh: if you do not get locked into the conventiolk points or thought s,s say you win the primary and are facing hla qnt. ou afir's ld you --
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best w to win the white house is to pick a docru matewod u nsert? mr. trump: i think it wod unusual. ther tous spirit that i have right now. i think that woua thin i wanto win first. a lot of people talk about running mas d vean wni. i saw someone talking abt o his ruinma wld be and is not going to have ce winning. i don' t want to talk about it too much. what i want disha bestorhe win, what is best for the country. i want to see somebody that is going to be spectacular. i know some republicans that will be very good. a couple people i have great respect for. i have gained respect for people on stage with me. i' m not going to mention wh there arpelehat have talent right now. we will pick somebody that everybody would like. going toheth se be ve -i initou be unfair to the republican
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i think it would be a slap in the face to the republicans. i think th wlde ly ere are positions where you could do that, even secretaries. we could do certin weo veo unify, the republicans and cr we have to stop signing our letters, our executive orders like obama. he cannot get along with abo so he sis ecuve. in four or five years, the courts are going to override him. one of thiwod i end many of his executive orders, especially the execute orders on illegal immigration. josh: we are about out of time. over the course of the campaign so far, is the ag ha de said where you say i wish i did notth mrtrp: i do not even want to probably there arce , that is true in life. no matter how successf y have been, there is always something, i wish i had that to do over.
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but you are not going to get it to do over. 99% we have been really happy with wt s ppednd s anir. i love the people in new we have done so well he d have bn greeted warmly. time up re mrum i like it. let' presidency, do you fn r customer do the air force one. airpla. i ultie a utter. they are spending $3 billion to build a new air rc one. i said i know i can do a lot better. josh you would not mothbalth trunk je mr. p: i do not know what i would do. to this uny. thank you r mi i mrtrp: thank you.
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formerex area -- former secretary of state jeb bush was a very strong governor, probably the strongest governor in the history of the state of florida. he was a young guy and i think there were some folks in the legislature that thought they might be able to run over him. that didn't happen. one tax cut wasn't enough- he had to do more. it wasn't enough to have 15,000 kids with school choice in florida, he wanted to have 100,000 kids. if he didn't like a project, it was going to be vetoed. it didn't matter if you were a republican. it didn't matter if you were his best friend. he said: 'this is where we're going, this is how we're going to reform state government...' every politician comes in
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talking about making change, and generally there's not much change. but governor bush made a lot of changes. he got the nickname veto corleone. if he saw something in the budget that he thought violated his conservative principles, you could guarantee it was gonna get whacked. he vetoed a bunch of my stuff and i was the senate president. the message to washington, d.c., is 'get ready...' because there will be change. nright to rise usa is responsible for the content of this message. josh: welcome back to "closup ." if you, hillary clintonou b the first woman president. campaigng for hillary clinton is the first womanref state,adei arit. we will talk about hilry clinton aomt. if there is a more experienced diplomat, i don'
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urathe u.n. and secretary. what is yo te s . brht: it is tragic because of theumia part geared trying to sorwhis on whoseid i think the bombings, trying to figure outow-d conflict the u.s. and russia and trying to figure out how to support the rebels and at thsae fit isil. josh: you were secretary of state to bill clin werehe signs of these types of situations? could this have been prect or dealtitdiertl msalig: the middle east has always been complicated. i think the war in ir h a lot to contribute in terms of the inks but theory of what was happening, spreadi to other places.
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hafez assad, to himself had been cru a sbbn. rianitse ia complicated place. a lot with the concentric circles emanating ou iq. josh: the world is a very different place. saddam hussein is ge ther qaddafi is gone. how different in terms of diplomacy do younkut havi intiae figureheads in dealing with so oe issues ms. al: it is very different. they were dictators. they did not care about their own populatis. whs different is the rise of what we -- of what our nonstate actors. some of them terrorist groups. some of them rebel groups that are not under the control of any authority and makingrdo figureutitwh to deal.
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i read this every day. whose side, you ne t that is the part tha it ier it is messy in so many ws. some of it is as a result of having had authoritarian dictators who suppreny organizefo of discussion or having any oppositn. josh: not asking you to knock anybody. as you watch this unfold, you must have opinions whe y think this is the time i would call this person. is there anything you wouldo differeny? msbr: part of it is nobody gets a cleasl when they come in. i think president obama h a hard job and secretary clinton was working with that al i terms of what was left from the war in iraq. i think we need friends. secretary kerry idam
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are eang coalition in the middle east so tha we are not doing everything bel i think ats at w do. try to figure out how the u.s. remains a leerut alone. josh: let' s talk about t reas you are here, campaigning for hillary clinton. if there is one area where her weakness, me the resume during her time as secretary of state by your estimation, whis that not a fair argument when you talk about benghazi? ms. albright: i think she was a very strong secrof state. in terms of understanding what america' s role is, restoring our reputation. spending lot of time with leaders of the countries but also in terms of getting to know some of the people in the countries, not just sitting in those fancy rooms.
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where he united states shou be. she had a lot of experience being a senator on the armed services committee and to understandoworgny d fee li gtoth. she was good at explaingha america is about. if they are going to pick on things, this is the wrong thing. she had a terrif ras secrarof state. and was a very good team player, which is an impot she knew wheere was against those with w h to negotte jo: what about the e-mails? ms. alig: she has already said she was sor about it. it is, i think , it is silly, as bernie sanders said. i really do think it is something that is t e her roles crarof state, which was dedicated ri posner niol test jo: you do not feel there was danger of his closing information or sy ?
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part of the thing people do not fully understand is the classification pce evy encyas dfent l. something i think most people do not know is sometimes things become classified an at the te eyerne a lot of the information is people reporting on things that they heard in ot country. it is only later that some of it looks as though it might hav some intlincvae. i do not think anything sheid harm tamic naon inres. ms. br: -- josh: how active are you goin to be ineramig brhti hope to. i enjoy it. america has a chance to elect to be most experienced person ever, having been secretary of state and a senatoanfidy sh: politics aside, it isn honor to have you in t sdi ms. albright: i always love being in new ham.
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josh: come back anytime. a new show is launching on wmur and it is coming up next. "matter of fact" is the mef it. from whito d. st rndo espuelas. 10:30, right after the show. check it out. new hampshire." until next right, srery . ht: definitely. josh: have a great sunday. the climate crisis, think again. in america, clean energy is already producing enough power for 18 million homes, reducing our dependence on foreign oil and supporting over one million jobs. i'm tom steyer. with bold leadership and an endless supply of wind and sun, we can do even more. the goal is 50% clean energy
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